Or is an in-person course more likely to guarantee a job after completion? What kind of certificate can I expect to get from a school like Thinkful, and will employers recognize it?
Yes... and no. The answers below are totally legit. Pick the right bootcamp or online program or university that works for your learning style, give it your all, make connections. Those are important things to do.
Here is what is really going to get you a job in tech - A head full of questions, and the passion to answer them. (and lets be honest... a friend in the industry, but hopefully you can make one while you are going to school)
A good program will tell you that the specific tech you are learning doesn't matter. That the ability to learn it does. Learn how to find the answers. Learn how to read the documentation. Learn how to ask for help. Learn how to work with other people. Learn how to learn new things... and yes, you also need to learn the basics of programming, and (the ...October 12, 2016
I'm with Nick on this and many of the other responses. It depends on what type of learner you are and how much effort you can put into learning. If you're able to follow the course material remotely, without having an in-person conversation with your instructors or peers, then an online course may work for you.
Another key factor is what type of career path you want. If you want to become a developer, then an online course can still help you get a job, as long as you are putting in the time to master the material. However, if you want to become a Product Manager, we find that on-campus courses are more practical to prepare you for a job. Product Managers manage teams and work directly with designers, developers, marketers, and others. It's important to learn how ...October 12, 2016
I think an online bootcamp is sufficient enough for getting a job but it also depends in how much effort you put into it. I completed an online bootcamp, Makers Academy Remote (Ronin at the time), and was able to land a job in week 10 of the course (12 week course). I'm not going to say it was because I knew so much they would have been dumb not to hire me because that's far from the truth. In fact, I think the main reason was luck and timing but hey, I still got a job.
My bootcamp wasn't self paced, we "met" every day for 12 weeks through video chat. Makers is based in London and I was in the good ole US of A so the time difference was tough but well worth it. There aren't any bootcamps near me so I knew I was going to have to eat the cost of housing and ...October 12, 2016
Overall I'd say picking the right bootcamp for you is more important than whether it is online or in person. Different people learn differently. I strongly recommend meeting the actual instructor who will be teaching you and hearing them give a talk, whether in person or online.
The honest answer about bootcamp certificates (including the ones I offer at my bootcamp) is that some employers will recognize them and some won't. In general if you want a piece of paper that will help you get a job, go for the 4 year CS degree from a respected univeristy. What you get from a bootcamp is a certificate that *some* employers will respect, some will ignore and some will look down upon PLUS a portfolio of work you can show. The portfolio and the personal connections you make ...October 12, 2016
Attending a bootcamp, be it online or in person, is going to take dedication, and you will get as much out of the experience as you put in.
There are a lot of different styles of bootcamps out there because it seems that everybody is looking for something a little bit different. Some things to consider, cost, duration of program, hours per week, location, framework or languages taught, size of class… oh my goodness the list goes on. When it comes to online learning, some people are very well suited for that environment and enjoy the flexibility that comes with it.
There is a cost to that flexibility though. One great way to get your foot in the door in the tech industry is to network. To meet others who are interested in the same things as you, and to meet industry ...October 12, 2016
It really depends on the bootcamp you're considering. Many don't focus on job-readiness specifically, and few have employees focused on Careers and placing their graduates.
At Makers Academy, our largest team is the careers team - we charge our partners a £5,000 fee to hire from us, which means that we're incentivised to grow that team and help incentivise us further to ensure our students get what they want - a job!
While you won't get any certificates, you'll have a portfolio of projects, all written using Test Driven Development, and we'll introduce you to our 00s of hiring partners after graduating.
Nothing in life is guaranteed, but a bit of research should show you that there is *huge* diversity in the quality of the European ...October 12, 2016
To add to Kris' comments I'd say if you attend an online bootcamp you had better make friends with Meetup.com!
Networking is vital to your success in any career, but crucial for programmers these days.
If you are going the online route, you will have to find people to network with yourself and Meetup can be a great resource for that. If you are in a rural area, you will likely have to put in much more effort in this regard. Don't have any technical meetups near you? Then you need to do whatever you have to do to get yourself to more distant meetups. I'd plan at least two times a month.
One thing I tell my students is don't think of it as "I'll go for a couple of months while in the bootcamp and then I'll be fine." No, you won't. User Groups and ...October 12, 2016
The only necessary ingredient for you to get a job is YOU and only YOU. And this is sufficient. Nothing else can be sufficient.
Is it online? or requires your local presence? it is irrelevant. My believe is that a good school teaching you computer programming:
Yes, but that does depend on the bootcamp. Your best bet is to look at their job placement statistics: what portion of students are actually getting hired after graduation? Are those stats CIRR-verified, or did the school make up their own standards? If you can look at a school's job placement numbers, then you can actually see whether or not that bootcamp is sufficient for getting a job (or at least how many people it was sufficient for — nothing works 100% of the time). If a school refuses to report their data according to open standards, bluntly, you can't trust their claims at all. SwitchUp has Thinkful's most recent CIRR reports on our page, though you can also check out our up-to-the month data at https://thinkful.com/bootcamp-jobs-stats/ . They show that Thinkful gets graduates ...October 12, 2016
There's really not one answer to this question, I'm afraid.
Can you clarify a bit?
Where do you want to attend a bootcamp? There are plenty of good bootcamps in a number of cities, so it would help answer your question if you specify where you want to study?
Are you interested in a women's only program, or did you just mean good for women as well as men?
I'm in the Atlanta area and although I don't teach Ruby (I teach Node.js and Microsoft ASP), I know there are several good schools here for Ruby.
If you can answer my questions above, I think you'll have a better chance of getting relavant answers.
Good luck finding the right school for you!
Code Career Academy
The previous response was reasonable - where are you based? Are you only interested in women only bootcamps, or is it a general question about which bootcamp would be best for a woman to attend?
If you're based in Europe, I can speak for Makers Academy - we're specifically committed to trying to move the needle on the "women in tech" problem. We actually focus on diversity in general (which includes, but is not limited to women), but I will focus on women specifically, since this is what you asked!
Our most recent cohort, which graduated a few days ago, was over 50% women. This is something we're super proud of, and has taken a lot of work. We've recently worked with Thoughtworks to provide subsidised places for 6 women, and will be doing more ...October 08, 2016
Are you looking for a program specifically designed for women? If so, what is it about a program like this that is specific to a single gender? I am a female working in the tech industry, and I am always a little weary of things that target themselves specifically for women. Instead of limiting the type of person in the room, maybe we can focus on opening up the room to all sorts of people.
That being said, there some places that focus on women, Grace Hopper is one that comes to mind, in New York. One of their goals is to close the gap between men and women in the tech industry, and that’s a pretty noble goal. I attended a school in San Francisco that didn’t necessarily focus on getting more women in the tech industry, but to make education accessible, and that inherently ...October 08, 2016
The best is always difficult to say. So as with all too difficult questions, i'll answer a simpler one: What is a good bootcamp for women. And i would like to say that definately ours (https://webdev.camp) is.
What you ask, makes a bootcamp good for women? I think above all two things:
1. The camp has either courses for women, or is especially interested in diversity. Tick.
2. The camp is open to a diverse range of beginnners in general. This speaks of a more open mindset and general willingness to explain basics, go slower, not push so much and generally not make students feel stupid. Tick.
I am the course director of Web Dev Camp, and have been in the business for over 20 years. I am very glad there is open talk about diversity nowadays. Not that starting a discussion ...October 08, 2016
Are there bootcamps that provide good preparation for data engineering? I have seen that some programs offer short workshops related to data engineering, but have found very little information about more intensive, substantial programs.
To share what I have found, it looks like the NYC Data Science Academy once offered a full-time 12-week data engineering bootcamp, but now seems to offer a part-time 6-week program on Hadoop and Spark. Zipfian Academy also offered a 12-week data engineering program, but, now that it was acquired by Galvanize, a 4-week workshop on Spark is offered instead. A place called Data Application Lab offers a 10-week online data engineering bootcamp, but I have found very little information about that one.
I would be interested in any information about data ...
Great question. Data engineering is growing at a faster pace than data science. Sadly, the previous intensive data engineering bootcamps were poorly designed and students were unable to get jobs, which is why they are no longer available.
We are planning to launch an intensive data engineering bootcamp in Summer of 2017. It is only open to applicants who have prior software engineering or system/database administration experience. Here is a link that includes our preliminary curriculum and an email list for updates (http://www.k2datascience.com/data-engineering).October 07, 2016
I work full-time and have worked with Access before as an end-user. The job I'm on now did not use Access, but I recommended it for tracking the information required for our job. Now that we have Access and I was able to work with an IT professional it get it up and running I would like to learn the coding of the program to keep it up and running, instead of having to call the IT professional who is in another country. So my question is, for someone in my position where would you recommend I start?
If you are open to any language, we offer a 4-week Introduction to C# Programming course at Coderversity.com. The instruction is held in a virtual classroom, and it is a weekend course - which should work well with your schedule.
Visit http://www.coderversity.com/learn-csharp for more information.September 27, 2016
Hello! You can start with our Introduction to Programming course: https://rmotr.com/introduction-to-python-programming
Please contact us at firstname.lastname@example.org and we can give you more advice.
Cheers!September 27, 2016
Please disregard the 2 previous answers. The people from those bootcamps did not read your question and probably do not have a tentative grasp of computer programming fundamentals.
Development on Microsoft Access requires use of Visual Basic for Applications (commonly shortened as VBA). If you are interested in self-studying, I would recommend grabbing this $20 book of Amazon: Microsoft Access 2010 VBA Macro Programming
I cannot recommend a specific Microsoft Access training course, but any local community college or IT training center may have classes. Be wary as they may be charging a high price tag for going through a book like that.September 27, 2016
About to start my degree in Network Administration, but also want to learn how to be a full stack web developer and be ready to work in 6 months. I have a really good work ethic and can put in the work and the time, but don't have a ton of money. Which Bootcamp is better for an overall learning experience, Thinkful or Firehose Project?
Since you didn't ask specifically, I won't labor the point, but they aren't the only 2 Online Bootcamps!
If you're still considering where to go, be sure to have remote.makersacademy.com in the mix :)
Our results so far have been pretty astounding - as good as Makers Academy onsite!September 23, 2016
Firehose Project has a longer track record of their full stack developer bootcamp. They have a lot of glowing reviews.
Thinkful recently launched their program within the last year. I tried a Thinkful part-time class on UI/UX and it was not that great. Just a bunch of free resources smashed together with a 30 minute meeting with a mentor. Great for getting some basics down, but you could only get a job if you were putting in significant time on your own over several months.September 23, 2016
I'm not sure who the representative from Peaks Academy is referring to — Thinkful has been around since 2012. It's upsetting to see a bootcamp employee spreading inaccuracies about another bootcamp, especially when they're so negative.
To answer your question, though:
I'm considering Designation, which includes several weeks of online coursework in the basics (adobe photoshop, etc.) before the bootcamp part starts. After graduation, is someone with no experience employable? Or would I be looking for a job for years?
Designation is the best UI/UX bootcamp in the world hands-down. I have met some of their graduates.
I would recommend studying HTML/CSS, visual design fundamentals, and exploring Photoshop and Illustrator before starting the course.
Email them and ask them for the placement statistics for people with no experience like yourself. The founder is friendly and transparent.September 21, 2016
We have so much success with our Beach Coders Ultimate UX bootcamp in training total newbies. In our exclusive One-on-One format, we find that people gravitate towards two main areas: research or design. While focusing on their strengths, our instructors guide students through their experience of discovery. One of the key features we focus on is concepts over software. In UX, there are many software chocies and trends change constantly. So to answer the question directly it is a resounding yes that UX bootcamps are not only great for beginners, they are also a high value pathway for individuals that are not into coding. If you are good at organizing a closet or laying out a clean flyer or have a knack for thinking in sequential steps, plus a little about how people ...September 21, 2016
Finding housing, etc.
I love Barcelona a lot, which is why I'd want to attend that specific campus.
I'm also curious about the conditions of the Barcelona location, as I read a review from 2015 about the room being very hot and not well equipped. I'm wondering if it's changed. Thanks!
I love Barcelona too. If you are doing an intensive bootcamp, you will not have much free time to check out the sights and relax.
It will be a stressful and unbelievable experience, and any sightseeing will detract from your learning.September 21, 2016
As our courses meet 50 hours a week from 8am-6pm, and recommended time spent out of class studying on your own is 10+ hours, I strongly recommend not working 40 hours a week as well.
We do have living expense loans available through our lenders though to cover bills, food, etc and offer free housing for students who live more than 50 miles from campus making it very possible to quit your job so you can focus on the program.
Additionally our students are finding employment within 30 days of finishing their courses on average, often time sooner.
SarSeptember 20, 2016
Yes, it is possible. I work for the first online data science bootcamp (www.k2datascience.com).
We tell students to cancel all social events and avoid any vacations or trips. You go to work and you study data science. That is the sacrifice that is necessary to maintain your income and successfully transition careers.September 20, 2016
Bootcamps in their very nature are supposed to be intense. They are designed to get you up to speed on key concepts of Computer Science, and the amount of knowledge and experiences you are supposed to take on should take up the majority of your time. There may be programs out there that are designed for students that plan to maintain a full-time job, but I believe it would cease to be considered a 'bootcamp.' I attended a school in San Francisco, Holberton, that is two-years long as opposed to just a few months. It is still recommended that students dedicate 100% of their time to the school for the first nine months, but I do know that some students have attempted to hold down part-time jobs. It has been difficult for most students, but every once in a great while you ...September 20, 2016
Coding Bootcamps start at 9 o'clock in the morning and finish at 6 o'clock in the evening. So ... you can't be at two places at the same time. Unless you work the other hours of the 24-hour clock.
However, you can still continue your work and take online coding courses like the one at https://www.techcareerbooster.com/online. They require, at least, 15 hours per week, which is very doable. They are designed for those particular students that they want to work at the same time. They assign to you a mentor which follows you throughout the whole journey of your studies. And there is a big difference to bootcamp: You don't have to pay the whole amount in advance. You pay as you go and you take only the parts of the course that you want. Nevertheless, they do have the exams ...September 20, 2016
Cybersecurity bootcamps are fairly new in the bootcamp space but with the security talent shortage growing faster than any other IT field, there are a lot of opportunities in a career in cybersecurity. I can only speak to Evolve Security Academy in Chicago when it comes to what they offer. Evolve has a holistic approach to the cybersecurity education and strives to create well-rounded cybersecurity professionals. The program touches on security program creation and administration; physical, people, and social engineering; defense, detection, and architecture; vulnerability detection, management, and penetration testing; and forensics and incident response. Employers want to hire individuals who understand the whole picture of security. With each module, Evolve brings ...September 20, 2016
Not sure if there are any true bootcamps that will train you to be a Security Software Engineer. A job like that requires a strong grasp of cryptography, C/C++ programming, understanding of System/OS programming, Network (TCP/IP) protocols and a host of other skills. It is one of the highest paid specializations in software engineering.
Our company has discussed whether to offer a course that trains Security Software Engineers. If we did, you would only be able to apply if you had prior work experience as a Software Engineer or a BS/MS in Computer Science. The bar has to be that high for the curriculum content.
There are many bootcamps that are training people to work in ancillay cybersecurity professions like "Information Security Analyst" roles.September 20, 2016
Depending on how you define "self-paced", you might want to check out the C# Learning Path on Pluralsight: https://www.pluralsight.com/product/paths#
This isn't a bootcamp, but rather simply online video classes. HUGE advantage here is you can sign up for a free trial and see how you like it. No matter what else you choose to do, I recommend you start here since you can get a really good idea if you like it for free.
Hope this helps,
Code Career Academy
I'm a seasoned SAAS Sales professional looking to add value and depth to my tech experience, particularly around API functionality.
I actually wrote a blog post about this at http://www.epicodus.com/blog/the-best-programming-language. Here's an excerpt:
My advice to you is: Don't worry - just code.
Most programming languages have more similarities than differences. No matter what language you learn first, you'll need to begin by mastering the ...September 17, 2016
I definitely agree with epicodus that learning ANY language is better than learning NO language, but I would suggest one bit of research on your part.
Pick a couple of job listing sites like careerbuilder.com and enter your location then do some searches on different languages and stacks to see what is popular (ie lots of jobs, not just lots of people who find it cool...).
In your particular case you need to further factor in which SaaS platform(s) you are working with (assuming you wish to continue on your current path). For example if you are working with Salesforce, I'd recommend learning some Java since their built in language is based on Java.
Hope this helps,
Code Career Academy
Hi there, my name is David Hong and I have some questions that I hope you can help me with.
I am a motion designer with 13 years of experience in the industry. My skill sets are primarily concentrated in GUI based apps like Adobe After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Premiere, Cinema 4D, Final Cut Pro X, and a few others. I have mostly worked in television as well as in branding consultancy as a motion designer.
Take a peek here:
None of my roles ever required any coding knowledge but I have noticed a shift in the industry towards "user experience". This is something that I am very interested in and I have been particularly looking towards the tech industry in Silicon Valley to make a move from my current post in New York City. In my job search I have found ...
There are no intensive motion design bootcamps.
If you are interested in UI/UX, I would recommend Designation out of Chicago.
Reach out to them, explain your background and your career desires. They will be able to guide you to the right path.September 16, 2016
There are a lot of bootcamps out there that will help you get your foot in the door, particularly when it comes to web/dev. If you want a few more tools in your toolbox, bootcamps are the perfect thing for you.
It sounds like you are interested in more than just getting your foot in the door tough. It sounds like you are interested in taking your career to the next level. If you want to work for one of the top companies in the Valley, you will need a bit more of a solid background in computer science and software engineering.
I attended a school in San Francisco, Holberton, and although they are still young, they have students hired by Apple, Dropbox, and Docker. The school focuses on the foundations and fundaments of CS, and this has made the school very attractive to tech ...September 16, 2016
I'm researching a few right now and would like your opinions. I'm interested in becoming a back-end software engineer and am transitioning from a mechanical engineering background after 5 years in industry!
From what we've seen - there is no such thing as BEST, especially among the top schools with strong reviews and placement records. There is only such a thing as a good fit. Here are some general tips:
1) Try to assess what your own career goals are and find the school that caters to those needs.
2) The other thing to pay attention is cultural fit.
3) Finally - we'd recommend talking to instructors and alumni from the schools and getting their opinion/vibe. Those things are very important since you will be spending 100s of hours with the people at the school.
4) Make sure you pay their campus a visit too. The environment can have a big impact on your ability to learn.
Lastly, we have assembled a shortlist here ...September 15, 2016
Fullstack Academy is on a level of its own.
Flatiron and Dev Bootcamp cannot really compare.September 15, 2016
I'm located in Vancouver and want to pursue a career in programming
Hi there! I'm Epicodus's president. We actually publish all of our job outcome data at http://www.epicodus.com/career-services/. Here's the latest data we have:
442 students have taken Epicodus courses that ended before March 2016.
Of the 405 who graduated:
Of the 309 who work as developers for someone other than themselves:
At their first software ...September 15, 2016