About to start my degree in Network Administration, but also want to learn how to be a full stack web developer and be ready to work in 6 months. I have a really good work ethic and can put in the work and the time, but don't have a ton of money. Which Bootcamp is better for an overall learning experience, Thinkful or Firehose Project?
Firehose Project has a longer track record of their full stack developer bootcamp. They have a lot of glowing reviews.
Thinkful recently launched their program within the last year. I tried a Thinkful part-time class on UI/UX and it was not that great. Just a bunch of free resources smashed together with a 30 minute meeting with a mentor. Great for getting some basics down, but you could only get a job if you were putting in significant time on your own over several months.September 23, 2016
Since you didn't ask specifically, I won't labor the point, but they aren't the only 2 Online Bootcamps!
If you're still considering where to go, be sure to have remote.makersacademy.com in the mix :)
Our results so far have been pretty astounding - as good as Makers Academy onsite!September 23, 2016
I'm not sure who the representative from Peaks Academy is referring to — Thinkful has been around since 2012. It's upsetting to see a bootcamp employee spreading inaccuracies about another bootcamp, especially when they're so negative.
To answer your question, though:
I'm considering Designation, which includes several weeks of online coursework in the basics (adobe photoshop, etc.) before the bootcamp part starts. After graduation, is someone with no experience employable? Or would I be looking for a job for years?
Designation is the best UI/UX bootcamp in the world hands-down. I have met some of their graduates.
I would recommend studying HTML/CSS, visual design fundamentals, and exploring Photoshop and Illustrator before starting the course.
Email them and ask them for the placement statistics for people with no experience like yourself. The founder is friendly and transparent.September 21, 2016
We have so much success with our Beach Coders Ultimate UX bootcamp in training total newbies. In our exclusive One-on-One format, we find that people gravitate towards two main areas: research or design. While focusing on their strengths, our instructors guide students through their experience of discovery. One of the key features we focus on is concepts over software. In UX, there are many software chocies and trends change constantly. So to answer the question directly it is a resounding yes that UX bootcamps are not only great for beginners, they are also a high value pathway for individuals that are not into coding. If you are good at organizing a closet or laying out a clean flyer or have a knack for thinking in sequential steps, plus a little about how people ...September 21, 2016
Finding housing, etc.
I love Barcelona a lot, which is why I'd want to attend that specific campus.
I'm also curious about the conditions of the Barcelona location, as I read a review from 2015 about the room being very hot and not well equipped. I'm wondering if it's changed. Thanks!
I love Barcelona too. If you are doing an intensive bootcamp, you will not have much free time to check out the sights and relax.
It will be a stressful and unbelievable experience, and any sightseeing will detract from your learning.September 21, 2016
Yes, it is possible. I work for the first online data science bootcamp (www.k2datascience.com).
We tell students to cancel all social events and avoid any vacations or trips. You go to work and you study data science. That is the sacrifice that is necessary to maintain your income and successfully transition careers.September 20, 2016
As our courses meet 50 hours a week from 8am-6pm, and recommended time spent out of class studying on your own is 10+ hours, I strongly recommend not working 40 hours a week as well.
We do have living expense loans available through our lenders though to cover bills, food, etc and offer free housing for students who live more than 50 miles from campus making it very possible to quit your job so you can focus on the program.
Additionally our students are finding employment within 30 days of finishing their courses on average, often time sooner.
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Bootcamps in their very nature are supposed to be intense. They are designed to get you up to speed on key concepts of Computer Science, and the amount of knowledge and experiences you are supposed to take on should take up the majority of your time. There may be programs out there that are designed for students that plan to maintain a full-time job, but I believe it would cease to be considered a 'bootcamp.' I attended a school in San Francisco, Holberton, that is two-years long as opposed to just a few months. It is still recommended that students dedicate 100% of their time to the school for the first nine months, but I do know that some students have attempted to hold down part-time jobs. It has been difficult for most students, but every once in a great while you ...September 20, 2016
Coding Bootcamps start at 9 o'clock in the morning and finish at 6 o'clock in the evening. So ... you can't be at two places at the same time. Unless you work the other hours of the 24-hour clock.
However, you can still continue your work and take online coding courses like the one at https://www.techcareerbooster.com/online. They require, at least, 15 hours per week, which is very doable. They are designed for those particular students that they want to work at the same time. They assign to you a mentor which follows you throughout the whole journey of your studies. And there is a big difference to bootcamp: You don't have to pay the whole amount in advance. You pay as you go and you take only the parts of the course that you want. Nevertheless, they do have the exams ...September 20, 2016
Cybersecurity bootcamps are fairly new in the bootcamp space but with the security talent shortage growing faster than any other IT field, there are a lot of opportunities in a career in cybersecurity. I can only speak to Evolve Security Academy in Chicago when it comes to what they offer. Evolve has a holistic approach to the cybersecurity education and strives to create well-rounded cybersecurity professionals. The program touches on security program creation and administration; physical, people, and social engineering; defense, detection, and architecture; vulnerability detection, management, and penetration testing; and forensics and incident response. Employers want to hire individuals who understand the whole picture of security. With each module, Evolve brings ...September 20, 2016
Not sure if there are any true bootcamps that will train you to be a Security Software Engineer. A job like that requires a strong grasp of cryptography, C/C++ programming, understanding of System/OS programming, Network (TCP/IP) protocols and a host of other skills. It is one of the highest paid specializations in software engineering.
Our company has discussed whether to offer a course that trains Security Software Engineers. If we did, you would only be able to apply if you had prior work experience as a Software Engineer or a BS/MS in Computer Science. The bar has to be that high for the curriculum content.
There are many bootcamps that are training people to work in ancillay cybersecurity professions like "Information Security Analyst" roles.September 20, 2016
Depending on how you define "self-paced", you might want to check out the C# Learning Path on Pluralsight: https://www.pluralsight.com/product/paths#
This isn't a bootcamp, but rather simply online video classes. HUGE advantage here is you can sign up for a free trial and see how you like it. No matter what else you choose to do, I recommend you start here since you can get a really good idea if you like it for free.
Hope this helps,
Code Career Academy
I'm a seasoned SAAS Sales professional looking to add value and depth to my tech experience, particularly around API functionality.
I actually wrote a blog post about this at http://www.epicodus.com/blog/the-best-programming-language. Here's an excerpt:
My advice to you is: Don't worry - just code.
Most programming languages have more similarities than differences. No matter what language you learn first, you'll need to begin by mastering the ...September 17, 2016
I definitely agree with epicodus that learning ANY language is better than learning NO language, but I would suggest one bit of research on your part.
Pick a couple of job listing sites like careerbuilder.com and enter your location then do some searches on different languages and stacks to see what is popular (ie lots of jobs, not just lots of people who find it cool...).
In your particular case you need to further factor in which SaaS platform(s) you are working with (assuming you wish to continue on your current path). For example if you are working with Salesforce, I'd recommend learning some Java since their built in language is based on Java.
Hope this helps,
Code Career Academy
Hi there, my name is David Hong and I have some questions that I hope you can help me with.
I am a motion designer with 13 years of experience in the industry. My skill sets are primarily concentrated in GUI based apps like Adobe After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Premiere, Cinema 4D, Final Cut Pro X, and a few others. I have mostly worked in television as well as in branding consultancy as a motion designer.
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None of my roles ever required any coding knowledge but I have noticed a shift in the industry towards "user experience". This is something that I am very interested in and I have been particularly looking towards the tech industry in Silicon Valley to make a move from my current post in New York City. In my job search I have found ...
There are no intensive motion design bootcamps.
If you are interested in UI/UX, I would recommend Designation out of Chicago.
Reach out to them, explain your background and your career desires. They will be able to guide you to the right path.September 16, 2016
There are a lot of bootcamps out there that will help you get your foot in the door, particularly when it comes to web/dev. If you want a few more tools in your toolbox, bootcamps are the perfect thing for you.
It sounds like you are interested in more than just getting your foot in the door tough. It sounds like you are interested in taking your career to the next level. If you want to work for one of the top companies in the Valley, you will need a bit more of a solid background in computer science and software engineering.
I attended a school in San Francisco, Holberton, and although they are still young, they have students hired by Apple, Dropbox, and Docker. The school focuses on the foundations and fundaments of CS, and this has made the school very attractive to tech ...September 16, 2016
I'm researching a few right now and would like your opinions. I'm interested in becoming a back-end software engineer and am transitioning from a mechanical engineering background after 5 years in industry!
From what we've seen - there is no such thing as BEST, especially among the top schools with strong reviews and placement records. There is only such a thing as a good fit. Here are some general tips:
1) Try to assess what your own career goals are and find the school that caters to those needs.
2) The other thing to pay attention is cultural fit.
3) Finally - we'd recommend talking to instructors and alumni from the schools and getting their opinion/vibe. Those things are very important since you will be spending 100s of hours with the people at the school.
4) Make sure you pay their campus a visit too. The environment can have a big impact on your ability to learn.
Lastly, we have assembled a shortlist here ...September 15, 2016
Fullstack Academy is on a level of its own.
Flatiron and Dev Bootcamp cannot really compare.September 15, 2016
I'm located in Vancouver and want to pursue a career in programming
Hi there! I'm Epicodus's president. We actually publish all of our job outcome data at http://www.epicodus.com/career-services/. Here's the latest data we have:
442 students have taken Epicodus courses that ended before March 2016.
Of the 405 who graduated:
Of the 309 who work as developers for someone other than themselves:
At their first software ...September 15, 2016
I am a complete beginner, and need training before applying to any bootcamps. Is best use of my time and money to enrole in the almost $3k Fullstack Academy Bootcamp Prep or look for a less expensive option? Any advice is welcome.
I am always a little bit wary when I hear of bootcamps that offer paid prep courses. I know that some programs want you to come in feeling prepared, and so they might give you some pre-course work to do, but getting students to pay for a prep course and a bootcamp seems a little excessive.
I'm sure there are extenuating circumstances that might make a paid pre-course program and a bootcamp the right combination for someone, so I guess my advice is just to proceed with caution.
I think a lot of bootcamps are realizing that in order to get someone up to speed as a junior software engineer, they either need to come into the program with some experience, or they need more than three months to be marketable as a software engineer... that's where the pre-course comes into ...September 14, 2016
Where bootcamps are concerned, the more you go in with, the more you come out with.
There is absolutely no need to pay for a prep course when there are plenty of exceptional free resources available. If you really want the personal attention, it may be worth it, but generally the exercise of picking up the fundamentals on your own is good practice for developing the grit necessary to learn advanced concepts.
The best bootcamp prep is from Viking Code School and every bootcamp student should look at it regardless of where you end up -- it will prepare you in ways that no one else does. We ...September 14, 2016
at Beach Coders Academy, We've found that most folks looking to switch careers into web development or UX design are satisfied with the skills they acquire from our immersive part time program that costs far less than full stack programs. While we encourage free online resources, like code academy and such, the live class format and the structure has far more comprehension and practical impact and well worth the time and money investment. Of those that want to go deeper into full stack, the knowledge and skills they gain from our program sets them ahead of the curve to excel in full stack programs and get the most value.September 14, 2016
I agree with Nichole. If I were a beginner I would definitely take a pre-class to make sure this was for me.
I run a small bootcamp near Atlanta called Code Career Academy, and what I do is offer a class called Introduction to Web Development that is 2 weeks long and geared towards beginners. A student can take that class as a stand-alone class or as part of the full bootcamp. If someone takes the class and then decides to continue on to the full bootcamp, I deduct the cost of the Intro class from the full price. In other words it's free if you go on to take the full program.
Signing up for a bootcamp is a big decision. I sincerely recommend trying it out before committing. If at all possible with the instructor for the full course. I believe it is vital that you have an instructor ...September 14, 2016
There are several options worth checking out for less than $3k. This article provides info on a number of different programs (scroll to the bottom), as well as some important considerations:
Two options I like for well under $3k:
It largely depends on where you are and what kinds of jobs you are interested in.
In the Silicon Valley start up scene, I hear there is a strong bias against older engineers. In other parts of the country and in more established companies there is less of it.
One of the keys to remaining employable is to keep up with technology changes. Be the person who learns the new things early.September 13, 2016
The median age of an American worker is 42. At Facebook it's 29, Google 30, Apple 31, Amazon 30 and Microsoft 33, according to research firm PayScale.
So whether it's intentional or not, ageism is an issue in Silicon Valley. One reason may be that the many institutes that are helping get people in the industry like code schools and bootcamps have an age cap for applicants. This means if you are older than 35, getting access to the education you want could be very difficult. Granted, bootcamps and code schools are not the only way you can get your foot in the door. There are a lot of ways you can do it all on your own. The only problem is that there is a disconnect between the fast paced nature of the millennials versus Gen X. In order to ...September 13, 2016
My degree is in political science, and I worked for the Obama 2012 campaign as a state data director, but that role was limited. I want to help engineer the data systems that will decide the elections of the future. I did the SQL Bootcamp at General Assembly but I don't know where to go from here really. I recently sold my small business so I can spend the money, and I have the time right now; but I want to be sure I'm making the right investment. Will I be able to find job placement after completing a Data Science course? Most of the statistics I've seen all seem to be regarding job placement for coders and programmers.
Your background sounds awesome. I work at K2 Data Science (www.k2datascience.com). We run an online data science bootcamp for working professionals.
Our training will make you competitive for entry-level data scientist positions. Getting a well-paying job has a lot to do with the student's commitment. Bootcamps should never guarantee placement.September 13, 2016
Finding a job after completing a data science bootcamp will depend on many factors - your education, your job history, the type of companies you're targeting, the roles you're going after (i.e. Data Scientist, Data Analyst, Data Engineer, etc.), and more. At Metis (www.thisismetis.com), we prepare you to graduate fully qualified for a job in data science, and we count on our Career Services to work closely with you, from day one of the bootcamp, to day one of your new job. We are fully committed to working with each student before, during, and after to ensure they are successful.
If you're interested in speaking further about your background, please feel free to e-mail me at email@example.com to chat more!September 13, 2016
You are asking excellent questions. A bootcamp is a great investment as it compresses a full year of courses into 3 months; at a quarter of the cost of a university degree, it also has a much lower opportunity cost of lost income. As you noticed, most first-generation bootcamps cater to coders and are staffed by young professionals with relatively small networks. That's why we have launched a next-generation bootcamp, called Principal Analytics Prep. We asked hiring managers in analytics positions to design a broad-based curriculum that covers not just coding but also statistical skills, and other related data skills and business fundmentals. Our instructors are almost all current hiring managers with an average of 10 years of work experience, and thus bring large professional ...September 13, 2016