Flatiron School vs General Assembly
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|Flatiron School||General Assembly|
Online Data Science, Online Software Engineering, Software Engineering
Front-End Web Development, Product Management, Python Programming, React Development, User Experience Design Part Time, Visual Design
|Cost||$15,000 - $17,000||$2,800 - $15,950|
|Location(s)||Online, New York City, Washington D.C., Seattle, Houston, Chicago, San Francisco, Austin, Brooklyn, Denver||Online, Austin, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, Dallas, Melbourne, Providence, New York, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Monica, Seattle, Sydney, Detroit, Houston, Miami, Minneapolis, Raleigh, Paris, Toronto, Denver, Singapore, Orlando, Scottsdale|
What is Flatiron School?
Flatiron School has four bootcamps that prepare students for a career in the tech industry.
Flatiron School is a global school that offers immersive programs that train and prepare people for careers in software engineering, data science, cyber security, and design. Students can attend an in-person bootcamp or learn remotely through their online programs. For those who want to explore a bootcamp is the right fit, several free prep courses and coding classes are also available.
Highlights: Whether in-person or online, program offerings cover in-demand careers. Both data science and cybersecurity bootcamps have been added, and Flatiron's coding bootcamp continues to evolve to teach the most current software engineering skills. Full-time bootcamps last 12-15 weeks.
Financing/scholarship options: Students have the option to pay upfront or sign an Income Share Agreement (ISA). The ISA ensures that students pay tuition once a minimum income is achieved. Students are required to pay an initial deposit, though monthly scholarships are available for individuals who have experienced barriers to education. Interested candidates may also qualify for other scholarships aimed at increasing diversity in the tech field. Additionally, some Flatiron programs include a money-back guarantee; graduates who meet all qualifications and requirements yet are unable to secure employment within 180 days are entitled to a tuition refund.
What makes Flatiron School unique?
Once graduated, students can work with a personalized career coach to practice networking, create a resume, and prepare for interviews.Go to Flatiron School's full page
What is General Assembly?
Along with an alumni network and professional partnerships, General Assembly strives to improve education access with financing options, free training, and scholarship programs. General Assembly has campuses in six countries. Full-time immersion programs in Web Development, Data Science, and UX Design are available.
Highlights: All students have access to personalized career coaching. There are also flexible course options, including part-time and full-time classes through online or campus-based learning. Online courses are designed to accommodate a student's schedule, with classes lasting between 10-13 weeks.
Financing/scholarship options: General Assembly's Social Impact team is available to provide more information about financial resources and opportunities for underrepresented individuals in the tech industry. Individuals may also consider the company's deferred tuition option that aims to diversify the tech industry and identify new talent. General Assembly offers resources to veterans and their families and accepts GI Bill funds.
What makes General Assembly unique?
Alongside coursework, students have access to workshops and events with industry leaders. Graduates from General Assembly programs have gone on to secure employment at'companies that include Google, Microsoft, and IBM.Go to General Assembly's full page
Flatiron School Reviews
- Jared Matta | Software Engineer
- Software Engineering
- Graduated: 2020
"Flatiron Software Engineering Course"
Attending Flatiron Immersive Software Engineering Course was such a wonderful experience. Before I started I had a hard time grasping the concepts of software design and programming in general. I entered the course on campus, which made me feel at home... Read More
- Graduated: 2020
"🚩***SCAM ALERT*** : Read Before Enrolling"
Oh boy...where do I begin.
My recruiter was Madison Delaney and I would sometimes go weeks without hearing back from her. You can't call Flatiron and get a single person on the phone...always goes to voicemail. I'd constantly have to follow up, and it... Read More
I payed for the in-person program and received the online program. Flatiron still refuses to refund the difference after months of going back and forth with them. No points awarded for ethically. Here's 600 other Flatiron students who are upset about the situtation that Flatiron still ignores and refuses to address publicly.
On another note, Flatiron's instructors always seemed busy. When in need of assistance, more often than not, you're told to google the problem instead. Why did you pay the tuition then...I don't know. Where is the money going towards...I don't know.
Flatiron is quite big on asking for feedback, and I sure provided a lot of feedback during my time there. For the most part they don't seem to follow up on too many of them...or at least mine.
The instructors are all very nice, many of them are hired right after graduating so they aren't as experienced as the lead instructors. You very rarely get any attention from the lead instructor and even other instructors, so you're on your own for the most part.
The aloted rough schedule they advertise on their website is misleading and false. Your division of the day will mostly result with you being on your own googling answers and teaching yourself. There's a lot of BS in the schedule, like attendance for a half hour, surveys for an hour, "stand-downs" for an hour, "feelings" for an hour, etc... After doing the math, 16% of our day was actually entirely unaccounted for and pair programming was at a minimal percentage. I would have thought they'd be extra careful to not have any false advertising because they lost a lawsuit for $375,000 for having false salary and placement statistics advertised on there website.
Upon finishing the program, I feel cheated out of $17,000. The money-back guarantee sounds nice, but in actuality most people are either ineligible or opt-out and I'm uncertain why. Flatiron even leaked everybody’s personal data in a mass email and it doesn't look like anybody has received the money-back guarantee.
CSS is not taught - maybe it's just touched upon. They do a decent job with Ruby and React, but discourage you from learning Redux. You can graduate this program not knowing CSS, a single algorithm, or have a personal portfolio page. That's a big red flag.
Career services will follow up with you often which is nice, no complaints about that. They do leave everything up to you and it's mostly hands off on their part.
I do believe that at one point in time they used to be good. I came into this program looking to love it, but they definitely left a bad taste in my mouth and that's wildly unfortunate. There are way better alternatives from my understanding - even just teaching yourself is a better alternative...you can do it, don't be discouraged! Udemy looks like they have some great full stack courses for $20. I'd do that if I could go back in time.
General Assembly Reviews
- Software Engineering Immersive
- Graduated: 2020
"I could never recommend GA."
The bottom line is I could never recommend GA or their software engineering immersive because the course for me was just teachers and all running around like chickens with there heads cut off.
- You meet other classmates doing the same thing... Read More
- Very little support
- No real hiring potential by going through GA vs anywhere else (Like other students got a job at said company and the employers thought it was a great hire and would love to hire more GA graduates, thats not really much of a thing)
- Teachers don't answers questions. (big one in my opinion because I joined the bootcamp to learn and understand what's going on not just be some attack dog that can only do what's in front of them)
- Recordings of the class were all deleted two months after the course when they explicitly said they would up for 6 months.
- All the teachers are burnouts from other parts of the industry and it's not a good atmosphere
- Constant surveys you have to fill out for them, 2-3+ a day sometimes.
- The class is only really 9 weeks long because 3 of those weeks are taken off to work on your own and make a project, were you get almost no help.
- Costs 15k
- Job support is pretty much non existent unless your have a specific question
- They say they don't do grades, but they do. They grade all your stuff like 9 out of 10 etc. and even one day in class a girl was having loads of problems with what we were going over so she asked for help and the teacher was just like na I have to go grade projects.
- Also the teachers are late a lot, have babies in class etc. (this was almost an everyday thing and maybe they're just not paying there employees enough if they can't afford babysitters?) and it just makes everything so much more stressful then it needs to be.
- Juliane Rossi | Product Owner
- Product Management
- Graduated: 2020
"Great material, awesome instructors!"
General Assembly created a very easy-to-follow workflow for the classes. It was a very 'hands-on' approach, where we could put into practice all we learned. A very good comprehensive course, yet easy to follow. The instructors were phenomenal! Since they... Read More