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Fullstack Academy and Flatiron School have similar coding bootcamps, with both part-time and full-time options. Fullstack Academy has on-campus options in New York City and Chicago and online courses. Similarly, Flatiron School provides on-campus and online options but has more campuses throughout the US. Fullstack Academy's main programming language is JavaScript, and Flatiron School teaches JavaScript and Ruby. Fullstack Academy largely recommends using student lending companies. Flatiron School, however, has an income share agreement (ISA) option that allows those with limited finances to attend coding bootcamp.

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Online Data Science, Online Software Engineering, Software Engineering
Cost $0 - $17,910 $15,000-$17,000
Location(s) Online, New York City, Chicago Online, New York City, Washington D.C., Seattle, Houston, Chicago, San Francisco, Austin, Brooklyn, Denver

What is Fullstack Academy?

Fullstack Academy targets all experience levels and teaches an extensive curriculum founded in JavaScript. Fullstack Academy also offers a Cybersecurity bootcamp and has part-time flex coding bootcamp options available.

Highlights: Classes follow a cohort model, with start dates every seven weeks. Subjects include computer science, front-end development, back-end development, databases, and best practices. Fullstack Academy has campuses in New York City and Chicago, as well as online options. Before beginning the program, accepted students take a part-time foundation course that outlines JavaScript basics. Students work with instructors using cutting-edge technology and engage in hands-on projects. Traditional courses run from 9:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. while the online bootcamp uses live lectures and real-time instructors help together with Fullstack'’'s online learning platform.

Financing/scholarship options: Interested candidates have access to financing options with student lending companies. The Edie Windsor Coding Scholarship is available for LGBTQ and trans women to help them access jobs in the tech industry.

What makes Fullstack Academy unique?

Fullstack also offers a Master Series, a set of workshops that provides continued professional development post-graduation. Fullstack Academy's Career Success team assists students in interview preparation and helps match graduates with potential employers. Major companies, including Google, Venmo, and Visa have hired Fullstack Academy graduates.

Go to Fullstack Academy's full page

What is Flatiron School?

The Flatiron School offers programs that prepare students for careers as web developers, cybersecurity analysts, cybersecurity engineers, or data scientists. Before signing up for an immersive program, potential students can explore free prep courses.

Highlights: Each track has an online option and on-campus options, though locations vary depending on the program. Flatiron School has courses available in New York City, Chicago, San Francisco, Austin, Seattle, Denver, Washington, DC, and Houston. A typical day at the Flatiron School begins with a student-led discussion, followed by a lecture, partnered exercises, labs and mini-projects, and assigned homework. Classes run from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. throughout the week. Accepted students are required to complete pre-work before their first day of class.

Financing/scholarship options: Tuition can be paid upfront, through financing options, or through an Income Share Agreement (ISA). Monthly scholarships are awarded to individuals who have experienced barriers to education.

What makes Flatiron School unique?

Interested individuals can download the syllabus for each track and analyze requirements before applying. Flatiron School also offers several free courses, including bootcamp prep courses and coding basics.

Go to Flatiron School's full page

Fullstack Academy Reviews

    10/22/2020
  • Anonymous | Software Developer
  • Web Development Fellowship at Fullstack Academy
  • Graduated: 2020

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"Best decision of my life!!"

I applied to Fullstack Academy though the NYC Tech Talent Pipeline for a chance at a fellowship opportunity. With a degree in computer science and the terrible market due to the corona virus, I knew it was going to take a lot more to stand out. That and... Read More

    8/24/2020
  • Jason | Frontend Developer
  • Software Engineering Immersive
  • Graduated: 2020

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"Best career decision I've made."

I applied to Fullstack on recommendation from a couple of friends who are developers. I had looked into 2 other highly respected bootcamps as well, but was not interested in the hours they offered. Fullstack is 5 days a week 9-6, while the other two were... Read More

The application process was pretty smooth, and included a live pair programming algorithm over Zoom or Skype. I was excited to be accepted, and had to begin the pre-course which was online, at your own pace with weekly deadlines and mini-tests called checkpoints. Most of the pre-course was targeted at improving your javascript skills and didn't include any frameworks or any type of work with stacks. After 3 weeks or so of that, the on-location portion began in NYC. It was exciting to be back in a learning environment, and I had been out of school since 2005. It was also energizing to be surrounded by many other people who were making a career change and were eager to learn. Unfortunately, we were on location for only a week (or two?) because of COVID, but I was extremely pleased at how well everything worked in a remote setting.

The 13 on-location weeks are split into two phases. The first, called junior phase is essentially learning the core stack. Node, Express, Sequelize, React, Redux. Then there is a week off with limited assignments, and a god chance to relax and review. The second phase is essentially putting everything we learned into practice, and prepping for the job hunt. I was surprised at how robust their career coaching was from resume reviews, interview practice, etc. I came out of the program a transformed person, and was fortunate to land a job within 2.5 months of graduating.

Flatiron School Reviews

    11/23/2020
  • Jared Matta | Software Engineer
  • Software Engineering
  • Graduated: 2020

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"Flatiron Software Engineering Course"

Attending Flatiron Immersive Software Engineering Course was such a wonderful experience. Before I started I had a hard time grasping the concepts of software design and programming in general. I entered the course on campus, which made me feel at home... Read More

    10/19/2020
  • Anonymous
  • Graduated: 2020

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"🚩***SCAM ALERT*** : Read Before Enrolling"

Oh boy...where do I begin.

My recruiter was Madison Delaney and I would sometimes go weeks without hearing back from her. You can't call Flatiron and get a single person on the phone...always goes to voicemail. I'd constantly have to follow up, and it... Read More

I payed for the in-person program and received the online program. Flatiron still refuses to refund the difference after months of going back and forth with them. No points awarded for ethically. Here's 600 other Flatiron students who are upset about the situtation that Flatiron still ignores and refuses to address publicly.
https://www.change.org/p/flatiron-school-in-person-students-flatiron-school-in-person-students-partial-tuition-refund-effort

On another note, Flatiron's instructors always seemed busy. When in need of assistance, more often than not, you're told to google the problem instead. Why did you pay the tuition then...I don't know. Where is the money going towards...I don't know.
Flatiron is quite big on asking for feedback, and I sure provided a lot of feedback during my time there. For the most part they don't seem to follow up on too many of them...or at least mine.

The instructors are all very nice, many of them are hired right after graduating so they aren't as experienced as the lead instructors. You very rarely get any attention from the lead instructor and even other instructors, so you're on your own for the most part.
The aloted rough schedule they advertise on their website is misleading and false. Your division of the day will mostly result with you being on your own googling answers and teaching yourself. There's a lot of BS in the schedule, like attendance for a half hour, surveys for an hour, "stand-downs" for an hour, "feelings" for an hour, etc... After doing the math, 16% of our day was actually entirely unaccounted for and pair programming was at a minimal percentage. I would have thought they'd be extra careful to not have any false advertising because they lost a lawsuit for $375,000 for having false salary and placement statistics advertised on there website.

Upon finishing the program, I feel cheated out of $17,000. The money-back guarantee sounds nice, but in actuality most people are either ineligible or opt-out and I'm uncertain why. Flatiron even leaked everybody’s personal data in a mass email and it doesn't look like anybody has received the money-back guarantee.

CSS is not taught - maybe it's just touched upon. They do a decent job with Ruby and React, but discourage you from learning Redux. You can graduate this program not knowing CSS, a single algorithm, or have a personal portfolio page. That's a big red flag.

Career services will follow up with you often which is nice, no complaints about that. They do leave everything up to you and it's mostly hands off on their part.

I do believe that at one point in time they used to be good. I came into this program looking to love it, but they definitely left a bad taste in my mouth and that's wildly unfortunate. There are way better alternatives from my understanding - even just teaching yourself is a better alternative...you can do it, don't be discouraged! Udemy looks like they have some great full stack courses for $20. I'd do that if I could go back in time.

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